PS4 Pro
#21
Not sure about the point either, current owners will be silly to upgrade for little benefit- literally just resolution at 4k? Woth scorpio on the horizon I think the extra power and other benefits would make the console upgrade more appealing, if you dont own a ps4 though, the pro is quite a good deal I guess.
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#22
I'm wasn't trying to make it sound like a deal breaker that the lack of 4K blu ray support is a huge issue that immediately stops me from buying it, its just a weird ommision given how the console was being presented as a 4K gaming and media box. And yes I agreed that 99% of the time is on gaming not other media, its just a nice thing to have.

Also the price was wrong. It's on the same. It's £100 more than a 1tb Xbox One S which was what I was comparing it to
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(09-08-2016, 08:13 AM)Timmeh555 Wrote: I'm wasn't trying to make it sound like a deal breaker that the lack of 4K blu ray support is a huge issue that immediately stops me from buying it, its just a weird ommision given how the console was being presented as a 4K gaming and media box. And yes I agreed that 99% of the time is on gaming not other media, its just a nice thing to have.

Also the price was wrong. It's on the same. It's £100 more than a 1tb Xbox One S which was what I was comparing it to

Ok the price - if we are comparing like for like in terms of HDD space is £100 difference but you are getting 3x the power. Its not just the resolution increase either but also HDR along with it and better frame rates too. VR games, that obviously can't benefit from the HDR or resolution increase, will benefit from much better textures, lighting effects etc etc as well as the increased frame rates. It maybe a £100 more but I would (and am) paying that to guarantee a better gaming experience than any other console can currently offer. Its worth it to me to ensure at least a 1080p gaming experience with better/smoother frame rates. Yes I know the Slim can also have HDR gaming but most of its games are still under 1080p - with a lot of the games I want at 720p - BF1, TF2 etc. These will be at least 1080p. Games like Horizon:ZD looks stunning in '4k' (or whatever native resolution that was running at) and in HDR that would look incredible. Whilst the game won't offer anything 'extra' as such, I would rather play in 4k HDR than 1080p SDR - same goes for Days Gone, Spider-Man etc too.

It would have been nice to have the 4k Bluray player as well but I doubt I would watch more than 1-2 Blurays over the next year until the Scorpio comes out but I bet I will spend 1,000's of hours gaming...

I may pick up a cheap XB1s, if I can't wait until the Scorpio arrives - my XB1 main disc drive is a bit like me temperamental (or just drop the tempera-) but I can't justify £250 (500GB model) just to upgrade to a 4k HDR Bluray player - something that may get used once or ywice before Scorpio.
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#24
Remember the Xbox One S also has HDR for games and can achieve slightly higher frame rates than the standard Xbox One. I'd say those are more significant reasons to upgrade than the 4K Bluray player.
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#25
Bit of a, perhaps, dumb question. Will games not start coming on 4K Blu Rays down the line due to the increased storage on them? Games do seem to be getting bigger and bigger almost with every new release and surely the devs are going to need that space on the disc sooner rather than later.
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#26
Potentially though knowing this gen there will just be a day one patch to give you all the rest of the files.

I agree with you, I would like 4K games but my hesitation is the relative lack of power to run 4K. Knowing PC's fairly well and a guy at work who knows far too much, the GPU while a huge leap from vanilla PS4 is still not enough for a native 4K 60fps. It's effectively the Xbox One of the 4K consoles.

Just also occurred to me but I would imagine load times are going to be bad on a 4K game without an SSD, although I dont know for sure, but BF1 on PC SSD is like 40 seconds quicker loading than Xbox so its gotta be a decent chunk of extra time which will be annoying on games like Dark Souls where you will likely be seeing it a lot.
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#27
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the PS4 Pro is just runs games a little shinier and smoother, no other improvements? Entirely pointless for someone that doesn't have 4K capable TV?

So which will be better, regular or slim? I'll pick one up in the inevitable Christmas 'sales'.
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#28
Well whatever happens if anyones buying a PSPro I'll gladly take a free second hand PS4 off them Wink
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#29
A round-up of yesterday's PlayStation Meeting for anyone who missed it.

A PlayStation big-wig said that those with a standard HD TV would benefit from Pro but didn't say how or why.

I was most excited about the Mass Effect video, to be honest.
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#30
(09-08-2016, 05:46 PM)Metalrodent Wrote: Well whatever happens if anyones buying a PSPro I'll gladly take a free second hand PS4 off them Wink

Sorry, my brother gets that honour.

Plas, the Pro will benefit people with standard HD TVs as well. Obviously they won't see a resolution increase, but graphical fidelity and frame rates will be improved.

The main reason I'm getting one is that apparently the Pro enhances VR framerates by 30, as well as improving the graphics. So 60 FPS games - the minimum for PSVR - will run at 90 and 90FPS games will run at 120, which will help with potential motion sickness.
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